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All of my images are released under CC BY unless otherwise noted. | All of my images are released under CC BY unless otherwise noted. | ||
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I got a lot of requests to image stuff, so here's my official policy. | I got a lot of requests to image stuff, so here's my official policy. | ||
- | In short, I focus on chips that are of interest | + | TLDR: for a typical chip, I suggest $25-200 donation |
+ | * e-mail | ||
+ | * e-mail me (consulting): | ||
+ | * [[https:// | ||
- | In terms of consumables, | + | Please provide the following information for each chip: |
+ | * Can you provide any funding for the work? | ||
+ | * Commercial or personal interest? | ||
+ | * Decapping involves harsh chemicals, direct expenses, high NRE, and time so contributions are greatly appreciated | ||
+ | * Any potential legal issues associated with the chip? | ||
+ | * If so, it will be evaluated on a case by case basis | ||
+ | * Ex: DRM, crypto can be problematic | ||
+ | * Ex: a typical sound chip or microcontroller is not an issue | ||
+ | * I will not work on: satellite, cable TV | ||
+ | * Clearly identify the chips, especially if you are sending more than one | ||
+ | * Ex: specify " | ||
+ | * What deliverables are you looking for? | ||
+ | * I assume | ||
+ | * Let me know if you are looking for other services like ROM extraction or delayering | ||
+ | * Replaceability/ | ||
+ | * Occasionally tings go wrong. How much would it cost to get a second one? | ||
+ | * Any previous knowledge? Maybe things people tried that didn't work? | ||
+ | * Do you have a particular timeline in mind? | ||
+ | * Coordinate with me for best results | ||
+ | * By default I retain copyright and publish work CC BY on siliconpr0n.org | ||
- | Delayering is typically more risky to the chip and myself (toxic chemicals like hydrofluoric acid). | + | In short, I focus on chips that are of interest |
- | This is a hobby and I' | + | In terms of consumables, |
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+ | Delayering is typically more risky to the chip and myself (toxic chemicals | ||
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+ | I prefer | ||
In general I want to focus on R&D / labwork and not hand digitization. | In general I want to focus on R&D / labwork and not hand digitization. | ||
- | Most of this is targeted towards small chips up to the mid 90' | + | Most of this is targeted towards small chips up to the mid 90' |
- | Other: most of the work is in decapping, not actual imaging. If you happen to already have a bare die and would be satisfied with a quick / lower quality scan, feel free to send me a few dies. This may actually | + | Other: most of the work is in decapping, not actual imaging. If you happen to already have a bare, clean die and would be satisfied with a quick / lower quality scan, feel free to send me a few dies. This also can work out well since most of the NRE cost is in the microscope, not the decapping supplies. |
- | Please provide the following information for each chip: | + | Chips are non-returnable. If you need something back, please make an explicit agreement before sending. |
- | * Required: markings on the chip | + | |
- | * Do not just send me the chip code name and expect me to know which one it corresponds to | + | |
- | * Ex: specify " | + | ====== Scales ====== |
- | * Optional: alternate names | + | |
- | * Ex: SWIM, Pentium 1 etc | + | mit20x vs mit20x2: |
- | * These are helpful to add to wiki pages | + | * mit20x: BH2 microscope, MU800 camera, 0.5x relay lens, Mitutoyo M Plan Apo lens |
- | * Required: what you want | + | * mit20x2: BH2 microscope, USB3 camera, 0.75x relay lens?, Mitutoyo M Plan Apo lens |
- | * Full images of every layer so you can digitize it? | + | * Select medium resolution 2736 x 1824 |
- | * Do you need the whole die or just a part of it? | + | * 20x |
- | * Top metal image for aesthetic purposes? | + | * 0.42 @ 800 nm => 952 nm R objective resolution |
- | * Are you hoping for high resolution | + | * 0.42 @ 532 nm => 633 nm G objective resolution |
- | * ROM dump? | + | * 0.42 @ 400 nm => 476 nm B objective |
- | * Suggested method? | + | * About 820 um wide field of view |
- | * Image mask ROM only? | + | * 820 / 2736 = 300 nm / pix raw |
- | * Erase fuses / laser magic? | + | * Cut image by half to sample RGB correctly => 600 nm / pix |
- | * Optional: datasheet is a plus, especially if I need to do something invasive | + | * 820 / 2736 / 0.5 = 599 nm / pix ultimate image resolution |
- | * If applicable: any previous knowledge of things people tried that didn't work | + | * vc60x => 1.4 NA |
- | * Required: replaceability/value | + | * 1.4 @ 400 nm => 143 nm objective resolution |
- | * Sometimes I can do something more aggressive (faster, sometimes much faster) that might have higher chance of damage | + | * About 820 / (60/20) => 273 um FOV |
- | * If they are readily available you should send me several just in case | + | * 273 um / 2736 pix / 0.5 pix/pix => 200 nm / pix ultimate image resolution |
- | * Especially if you want me to do invasive analysis | + | * Conclusion: possibly losing slight resolution in blue, but probably good enough |
- | * TODO: come up with a scale, but here are some rough figures | + | |
- | * Very common: < $5 or can easily get for free | + | TODO: link github calibration files |
- | * Ex: XC2C32A | + | |
- | * Common: can get more if you shell out mild cash | + | ^ Scope ^ Objective |
- | * Ex: playstation 1 CPU | + | | pr0nscope |
- | * Rare: You can probably get more but it might take a while or cost >$100 | + | | pr0nscope |
- | * Ex: playstation 4 CPU | + | | pr0nscope |
- | | + | | pr0nscope |
- | * Ex: CSG 4510 R3 (the C65 CPU) | + | | | mit20x2 |
- | | + | | pr0nscope |
- | | + | | pr0nscope |
- | * Commercial or personal interest? | + | | pr0nscope |
- | * I'm not opposed to commercial interest so long as the die images remain free here | + | | pr0nscope |
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- | * I am willing to do a lot of stuff for free, but it does involve harsh chemicals, costs me money, and time so anything is appreciated | + | |
- | | + | ====== Die archive ====== |
- | * Does release need to get restricted? | + | |
- | * DRM? Crypto? | + | |
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- | * Do you have a particular timeline in mind? | + | |
- | * Between work and other requests don't be surprised if it takes me several months to get to it even if its only an hour of work | + | |
- | * Coordinate with me for best results | + | |
- | * I usually have the most time late Dec / early Jan | + | |
- | * By default I retain copyright and publish work CC BY on sipr0n | + | |
- | * If you need exclusive copyright, want to be included in CC license, etc make an explicit agreement with me | + | |
- | Still reading and interested? | + | Chips that were decapped for imaging, but stalled out for one reason or another |
+ | Includes | ||
+ | * Konami 054539 | ||
+ | * Embargoed image data to be released 2022-12-13 | ||
+ | * Konami 053246 | ||
+ | * Konami 053247 | ||
====== References ====== | ====== References ====== |
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