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 Above: HSS endmills are relatively inexpensive (above were about $3 each) and work reasonably well. They may be a better option than more expensive endmills that last slightly longer Above: HSS endmills are relatively inexpensive (above were about $3 each) and work reasonably well. They may be a better option than more expensive endmills that last slightly longer
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 +2021-12-29: McMaster has recently been using RFNA (instead of WFNA) which seems to be much faster on epoxy. Fast enough that I'm no longer pre-milling chips. This tends to be faster overall and removes risks of milling (damaging bond wires, etc)
  
 General recommendation for pre-milling packages General recommendation for pre-milling packages
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   * A few chips have higher bond wires than typical   * A few chips have higher bond wires than typical
  
 +Suppliers: 
 +  * 1/8 / 3 mm 
 +    * https://www.ebay.com/itm/231362129393?&autorefresh=true 
 +      * 1PCs 1/8''x1/4'' 4 Flute End Mill Cutter Milling Slot Drill Bit HSS 
 +      * 2019-12-26: qty 10 for $20.93 shipped ($2.09 each) 
 +    * 5Pcs/Pack Carbide Flat End Mill 4-Flute Mentalworking CNC Tool 3mm Cutting Dia 
 +      * 2019-12-26: qty 5 for $15.25 ($3.05 each) 
 +    * https://www.ebay.com/itm/303339639134 
 +      * 3mm Carbide End Mill 4-F CNC Milling Cutter Bit 3*4*50L 55° VHM coating *5pcs 
 +      * 2020-09-06: qty 15 for $43.24 ($2.88 each)
  
 ====== Copper bond wires ======  ====== Copper bond wires ====== 
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   - Optional: mill out a cavity about the size of the die   - Optional: mill out a cavity about the size of the die
   - Place IC in petri dish on hot plate   - Place IC in petri dish on hot plate
-  - Heat to 150C+  - Heat hot plate to 100C
   - Place one drop of FNA (possibly mixed with concentrated sulfuric) on center of chip   - Place one drop of FNA (possibly mixed with concentrated sulfuric) on center of chip
   - Wait a few seconds   - Wait a few seconds
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 Low cost technique using readily available materials. Low cost technique using readily available materials.
  
-Procedure+Sample procedure
   - Heat bath to desired temperature   - Heat bath to desired temperature
-    * The solution will start forming black whisps when it reaches minimum temperature.  Approx 150C is common. +    * TLDR: 200C is a good starting point  
-  - Cook until done.  Time varies greatly with temperature and epoxy+  - Cook until done 
 +    * TLDR: check every 15 minutes at 200C 
 +    * Time varies greatly with temperatureepoxy type, and thickness 
 +    * Solution opaque => difficult to monitor. You might need to pour to another container to check 
 +    * That said, probably on the order of 10s of minutes for 200C 
 +    * 350C will take seconds even for a thick chip 
 +  - Pour off as much acid as possible and then rinse chip in acetone
  
 Notes Notes
   * Temperature   * Temperature
 +    * The solution will start forming black whisps in solution when it reaches minimum temperature.  Approx 150C is common
     * Higher temperatures make it go faster.  I use about 200C as a compromise between fumes and working time     * Higher temperatures make it go faster.  I use about 200C as a compromise between fumes and working time
     * At about 300C fumes are a huge problem but I did decap a large plastic chip in about 10 seconds      * At about 300C fumes are a huge problem but I did decap a large plastic chip in about 10 seconds 
     * It may work best to reflux the acid as it will boil off rapid above about 275.  I use a watch glass to cover the beaker which helps considerably and is easy     * It may work best to reflux the acid as it will boil off rapid above about 275.  I use a watch glass to cover the beaker which helps considerably and is easy
-  * Water severely reduces effectiveness.  If a chip is inspected and washed, wash with acetone and then bake briefly on hot plate before adding back to solution+  * Water severely reduces effectiveness 
 +    * Use acetone instead of water if possible 
 +    * If a chip is inspected and washed with water, wash with acetone and then bake briefly on hot plate before adding back to solution
   * I put chips into a PTFE basket (drilled out smaller beaker) so that they can be quickly removed and inspected without cooling down the acid bath   * I put chips into a PTFE basket (drilled out smaller beaker) so that they can be quickly removed and inspected without cooling down the acid bath
-  * As the acid concentration drops it begins to boil up.  This is extremely dangerous and can lead to boiling over.  Mitigation: use big beakers, ideally 10 times as large as liquid level.  It also helps to use excess acid as things work faster anyway+  * As the acid concentration drops it begins to boil up.  This is extremely dangerous and can lead to boiling over 
 +    * Ideally use more acid as this will also decap chip quicker 
 +    * Using big beakers also helps, ideally 10 times as large as liquid level
 {{:mcmaster:decap:epoxy:boiling_h2so4_sludge.jpg?300|}} {{:mcmaster:decap:epoxy:boiling_h2so4_sludge.jpg?300|}}
   * Sulphuric eats most metals, although slowly. Expect pins and such to still be in tact, but the bond wires will likely break without any support   * Sulphuric eats most metals, although slowly. Expect pins and such to still be in tact, but the bond wires will likely break without any support
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 ====== References ====== ====== References ======
   * http://zeptobars.ru/en/read/how-to-open-microchip-asic-what-inside   * http://zeptobars.ru/en/read/how-to-open-microchip-asic-what-inside
-  * CDCA: http://www.ecpe.org/fileadmin/_recycler_/07_Kerisit_Tools_Dedicated_to_Chip_Access.pdf+  * CDCA: 403 errors (as of Nov 2023), archived in Wayback Machine: http://web.archive.org/web/20180106035620/http://www.ecpe.org/fileadmin/_recycler_/07_Kerisit_Tools_Dedicated_to_Chip_Access.pdf 
 +    * Original URL: http://www.ecpe.org/fileadmin/_recycler_/07_Kerisit_Tools_Dedicated_to_Chip_Access.pdf
  
 
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